The Outset Limits

darrfall:

This post was born of the conversations with new and potential subs I met during the last Welcome Wednesday. Many first-time subs struggle to have a conversation about limits. Often, when talking to a sub about what they do and do not wish to experience under hypnosis, I get answers such as “I’m down for anything” or “whatever you can make me do”. Some simply fail to consider all the possible interests of hypnotists in the erotic hypno community. Others are turned on by the idea of succumbing to the powerful will of a hypnotist, erasing their past boundaries and rewarding compliance with intense pleasure – not realizing that they may regret their experiences after the fact. The answer “whatever you can make me do” presupposes an antagonistic relationship, which suggests you probably won’t be doing much of anything.

My goal in this post is to provide a simple list of common interests tists and subs can have. Subs: I recommend that before communicating with a tist, you copy this list into a text editor and annotate each line item with one of the following suggested responses:

Suggested Responses.

  • Y (for “yes”, or “I want to experience this”)
  • N (for “no”, or “I do not want to experience this”)
  • E (for “eventually”, or “I do not want to experience this now, but expect to be open to it in the future as the hypnotic relationship develops”).
  • B (for “bend”, or “I do not want to experience this now, but I am open to the hypnotist bending my boundaries and instilling a desire to experience this”).

Y and B responses imply immediate consent to make the suggestion – the difference is only in the present conscious receptiveness to the suggestion. N and E do not imply consent in any form. E simply implies a possibility of future consent. If the responses above do not cover how you feel about a particular type of suggestion, please feel free to use (and reply with) your own.

The Categorized List

1. Privacy

    • G-Rated exposure (taking off shirt, pants, socks. Undergarments stay on)
    • Nudity
    • Still screen captures
    • Audio recording
    • Video recording


    2. Generic Hypnosis

    • Positive hallucinations (seeing, feeling, or hearing something not actually there)
    • Negative hallucinations (not seeing, feeling, or hearing something that is actually there)
    • Short-term memory lapses (e.g. forgetting the sub’s name or a particular number)
    • Hypnotic Amnesia (forgetting what happened in hypnosis or during the session. Keep in mind, some subjects experience this without any suggestion)
    • Age regression
    • Animal Transformations (pup, pig, etc)

    3. Eroticism and control

      • Arousal of sexual desire
      • Orgasm
      • Edging/gooning
      • Emotional control (within a session)
      • Knockout play
      • Blanking
      • Imobilization
      • Triggers (within a session)

      4. Humiliation/BDSM

        • Private humiliation (between tist and sub)
        • Public humiliation
        • Watersports
        • Pain
        • Financial Domination/Transfer of money or other assets to tist

        5. Long-Term suggestions

          • Muscle Gain/Jockification/Becoming more athletic
          • Weight gain/Fattening
          • Chastity/Cock-locking
          • Smoking
          • Long-term emotional attachments
          • Fetish creation
          • Triggers (outside a session)
          • Travel/In-person meetnig
          • Enslavement
          • Personality Modification

          The list is in no way exhaustive. Some items are intentionally vague. This list is intended as a way of starting the conversation on limits. Some of the suggestion types may require delving into specifics to ensure both parties are clear on the experiences to which the sub consents. For instance, if both parties are interested in long-term triggers, they may choose to discuss which triggers they desire and where, when, and by who they can be activated. Any other interests or limits (both on sub and tist side) should be included in the discussion. In fact, if you reply or reblog with additional suggestions, I will happily add them into the post.

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